A quick basic fact about child support.

[Jim]

Paying child support to the State (through an assignment by the custodial parent to have the state collect support) is unconstitutional taking of private property (child support money to child) for public use without compensation--in violation of the 5th Amendment Takings Clause. The monies are made into book-keeping entries and reported to the Feds for federal reimbursement incentive funding to the states, with no strings attached, and in which the states then put the funds into their general treasuries to supplement their budgets. See, 42 U.S.C. Section 658(f): (f) Reinvestment. A State to which a payment is made under this section shall expend the full amount of the payment to supplement, and not supplant, other funds used by the State

I don't mind paying child support for my daughter but $200.00 a week, 70% of my income for one child is quite ridiculous and IS extortion!
I did this for over 2 years and have almost lost everything before they modified it for me to about 32% lower.

[Barbara]

Dont feel bad I may loose my home and our business.No child support guidlines were applied in our case she just said i wont take any less then..... and got it

[Jim]

I've been hammered for over 5 years and they surely dont care if you have the money or not, they rely on you getting it one way or another even if it resorts to crime, robbing or making all your family members pay it etc etc etc. Then when they drain you dry they just lock you up and get grant money from the fed for housing you.

Its a destruction beyond comprehension to most people..........

[FathersFitness]

I have paid and I had enough and fathers better realize that employers are in on the deal and can profit from your demise with transaction fees being attached to your wage garnishments. I have been paying on a imputed child support order based on a yearly salary of 35,851.The problem is that I grossed just over 23,000 and was forced to try and live on 338 dollars a month. read the new hire program information and laws for employers. They are not protecting you and I lived it. I also filed a EEOC complaint against my former employer for aiding in the destruction of my life and interfering with my relationship with my sons by taking my pay and watching me fail to thrive.

[Chrem88]

Hell my Separate wife file for Child Support.Did not put her income on the child support worksheet and she had a job and was getting medicaid for the kids while receiving Food Stamps.And the Albany, GA Child Support office would not take my income cause i told them i was moving to NY and they said they [glow=red,2,300]CANNOT[/glow] take that income and not what i was making now.Now none of the courts did not check to see if there was a divorce at all.And who had custody at all.When i asked how come they did not look into this and why her income was not added when she was working and had a bank account.They stated to me that they do not do that cause by time they all the checks needed to be done the father could have ran and they would never be able to find him.So Now i have A Separate wife wanting to make NY enforce a child support order and i have no job at all.Cause of a false charge she me arrested for in June 21 2007 and then she has the nerve to call my Gf cell phone and me and says how come i have not paid child support.And if i paid something she would let me speak to them. When ask by me and her sister to drop the charge,So i can go back to work here in NY as CNA

Here is her words to her own sister
"----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: " ELIZABETH"
To: Ms. Helen
Date: Apr 24, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: hmmm.......


[glow=red,2,300]FUCK YOU... THERE NOT FALSE CHARGES THE DUMB ASS ADMITTED TO IT IT IN A COURT ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE AND THE JUDGE THREW HIM IN JAIL SO YOU CAN GO AND PLAY HIS DUMB BITCH AND TELL HIM INFORMATION AND GO TO HELL FOR ALL I CARE!!!!!!!!!!!![/glow]

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Ms. Helen
To: " ELIZABETH"
Date: Apr 18, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: hmmm.......


well..its funny most of the time when i was around both of you...it was you screaming like a fool at them. and as far as ''them'' he lived with me and zach..and i know who hurts them..and it wasnt anyone in my house. you cant play that card liz, i know what the deal is..and as far as your kids..unless im mistaken your not the virgin mary and didnt have 2 kids on your own..serioulsy how long is your '' sugar daddy'' gonna take care of you and your kids, you say chris dosent pay child support?..well how can he bno one will hire him because of that false charge you insisted on putting on him..liz i have known you all my life..and i will never beleive anything you say because all you do is lie. no i dont belive any of your accusations against him because i know you..you lie and scheme to get your way and when you dont you find ways to hurt and make someone angry at you then you try to say they are ''hurting you. i also know what i heard from matts mouth he dosent just badmouth chris..he told me and zach''their m oma or their daddy dosent do anything'' he says he does everything. he is not their father and if he wants to play daddy why isnt he doing for his own child? liz im ashamed of you..how can you be so hateful and vindictive and act like your better than anyone else around you..no wonder i dont try to have a relationship with you anymore..im scared if i piss you off what will you have me charged with?..oh and as far as my fiance goes..he isnt chris's spy..he just dosent have time for lies and manipulation...he thinks brfore he speaks and if you want to continue messaging him so he can continue to show you how stupid you sound..well thats fine by me.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: " ELIZABETH"
To: Ms. Helen
Date: Apr 18, 2009 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: hey


ok play stupid all you want just rember this im youre sister not him......and i wont forget about all you have done for him considering all he did to them and me....

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Ms. Helen
To: " ELIZABETH"
Date: Apr 17, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: hey


i don't know what your talking about all i did was take some pictures of the family.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: " ELIZABETH"
To: Ms. Helen
Date: Apr 17, 2009 3:05 PM
Subject: hey


i appreciate you takeing videos ofMY SON and sending it to people over the iternet.....not now i know who i can trust and cant thanks for clarifying this for me ..... im so glad youre friends with him and on his side instead of youre sisters........"

So yea i feel every bit of the pain u all do.So i guess i see what will happen tomorrow when i go to court @9.45 and i will keep u all inform

[Jim]

Using child support arrears to blackmail you from seeing your kids is wrong, child support and visitation are 2 seperate issues.

The language back and forth here in these emails is so common, what a bunch of bullshit and just more of harming the kids over vindictive behavior. It happens all the time and happens everywhere, makes me sick............

[Chrem88]

I agree with you framed.I mean that email was what my separate wife sent to her sister cause she sent me a video of my son on Easter.
My wife has sent numerous email like that.She is a person who tends to believe she is in the right and not a bit wrong,She does not believe that all kids need both parents.I say this because this what she sent me when i posted a myspace status saying this

Wish me and liz embry would stop fighting and focus on our kids,Since they are the one hurting the most from this

She sent me this message

Just so you knoow i am not fighting with you..
You moved away that is why you havent seen youre kids.
You was able to see them like you was suppose to when you lived here .Now you cant becouse you moved youre choice you left them......
THE END!!!!!!!!!!



Also news on the court case.Spoke to legal aid in NY and they cannot help me at all because lack of staff .I was told to bring a piece of paper on were all i look for jobs and any income i might have had at all.

I will keep u all inform

[DaisyMayNot]

sounds like she is using you moving just as an excuse to punish you. she is using the kids as a tool to punish you, it happens all the time. very few people care what the children feel or how much this mean behavior harms them.

[Chrem88]

I agree with you DaisyMayNot.That is exactly what she is doing .I mean she does not care about anything except trying to collect a CHECK

[VisitorDad]

She is committing child abuse and a hate crime towards the father, oh but she's a woman and a mother, therefore she is immune to any accoutability.