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Post by forfatherlessfive on Nov 18, 2009 23:48:01 GMT -5
There is a HUGE incentive for states and counties to cheat the child support system: FEDERAL MONEY. Billions are at stake each year and the states "compete" for their share. Some states, like Colorado and Minnesota, cheat to get more than their fair share. Here are some of the ways they cheat: - CPS, law enforcement, psychologists, CFIs, etc., frame the 'breadwinner' as a bad parent to minimize his parenting time.
- Judges 'imput' arbitrary incomes for the bad parent to maximize the child support order.
- Judicial and CSE officials block modification of support orders if it will result in a reduction of the monthly support amount.
Here are some more ways they cheat: - All applications for child support enforcement are accepted, even though knowing that most applicants are ineligible.
- CSE caseworkers steal from non-custodial parents and their children (They stole over $6,000 from my children and me).
- CSE officials commit mail fraud, wire fraud and bank fraud, to keep their numbers up, and if all else fails they alter Title IV-D accounts and cook their books.
Over the years, states have morphed their child support enforcement departments into huge money making machines, which have become criminal organizations. They are engaging in theft of public funds, extortion, and racketeering. If a private sector employee did anything remotely similar to what our government officials do in federally funded programs they would go to jail for many years.
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Post by Jim on Nov 19, 2009 8:44:36 GMT -5
It's also interesting how and what it takes to open a case with child support enforcement.
Here in Georgia a parent only needs to go down there and file an affidavit, for example:
If you actually owe, lets say $112.86 dollars in back child support, the other parent can go down there, file an affidavit claiming that you owe $50,000.00 in child support and "whammo" the case is open. You owe that much until proven otherwise!
The burden of proof is then all on you to prove that you really only owe $112.86!!!! The other parent is never held accountable for fraud, filing a false affidavit, perjury etc etc etc.....
This is only one example of the idiotic (and criminal) procedures with CSE, added to many as explained above in the previous post.
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Post by forfatherlessfive on Nov 19, 2009 11:07:44 GMT -5
That is insane, Jim!
It explains why CSE in CO and MN refused to send me a copy of my ex-wife's applications. I wrote to both several times suspecting that she committed fraud in her applications and even heard back from one of the CSE criminals telling me that I can't have a copy because it is "confidential".
This is nonsense - We are entitled to a copy of anything in our IV-D file.
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Post by Harrison on Nov 19, 2009 12:24:44 GMT -5
John, did you fill out the proper request form for each department in each state? Upon delivery to each department, both your copies and theirs should be signed and dated. If they choose not to take a hand delivered request, send it registered mail. After they receive the request they have a set amount of time (it may very) to either send you the requested documents or contact you and let you know of any delays and when it will be ready. Delays past a certain point are compensatible and blowing off the request or refusing it, when needed for litigation is a hell of a law suite not even IV-D worms can often get around. They ARE going to take their time and black out information to protect the guilty. I believe most of this falls under the freedom of info. act. Oh yahh, they usually won't tell why they won't give info. but the forms should be found at the states IV-D web site. dshs, etc. Harrison
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Post by Jim on Nov 19, 2009 16:54:31 GMT -5
The Freedom of Information Act 5 U.S.C. ยง 552, As Amended By Public Law No. 104-231, 110 Stat. 3048www.justice.gov/oip/foia_updates/Vol_XVII_4/page2.htmNot that this will do much good though, it seems somewhere within the last year I read in the Title IV-D codes/rules etc that they (the officers/employees or any political person) were pretty much immune from being sued for about anything. I didn't have any trouble getting my paperwork from CSE here in GA. But I was pretty much about to file a suit against them and they were aware of that when they were an illegally unknown 3rd party in a superior court modification case last year, it was a mess. I went and had a meeting recently with them once I was court ordered to pay support through them and not directly to the mother as I did for years. They were actually quite polite and fully understood what a bitch the mother was being and the circumstances with my case. The mother used them to harrass me 3 years ago and then shut down the case when she learned she could probably get more money from me through the superior court here (which she did) in our custody trial. Even CSE here in my district know what bitches my daughters mother and her attorney are.
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Post by forfatherlessfive on Nov 19, 2009 17:54:40 GMT -5
Harrison: I wrote to the county CSE caseworker and she immediately sent me a copy of everything in the file except the original application with a letter stating, "...due to confidentiality, we are unable to release (your ex-wife's) application for services". I wrote her back requesting "a citation of the law that gives you the authority to withhold it", but she refused to respond.
Jim: Thanks for the FOIA link. I've never made a request pursuant to that; have you?
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Post by Harrison on Nov 19, 2009 18:43:19 GMT -5
John, She's fucken' with ya alright! That means your request wasn't fulfilled and that's with holding docs. for possible litigation, in turn a cause for litigation. In which state? I'll look at the laws to help you pin it down.
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Post by forfatherlessfive on Nov 19, 2009 18:55:42 GMT -5
Thanks Harrison - Colorado.
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Post by Jim on Nov 19, 2009 19:32:49 GMT -5
I added some more Title IV-D links in the "CS links and resources" thread.
I was looking through some of these sites and about puked from the stench of them!
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