|
Post by tobias1978 on Mar 8, 2009 0:15:50 GMT -5
Well here is my story.
About 11 years agowhen I was 19 years old CPS contacted me saying i was named as a potential father of a baby girl. They did the cotton mouth swab dna test and it turned out that I was the father. Now at this time I did have a stable place to live and a decent job. They said before I can get my daughter they wanted me to go through a parenting class and a anger management class.
I still don't know why I had to take the anger class since I had no criminal history except a traffic ticket. I went through the first parenting class and completed it. But they said while I was in the anger class I had to take another parenting class. Now here is where it gets messy. Right after I completed my 2nd parenting class CPS sent me a letter saying my parental rights are terminated.
Without any court or meeting with me they took my child. My sister and mother both stepped up and said they would take her but they said no because I would be coming around.
Is there any way I can get any of my parental rights back or have grounds for a lawsuit? Oh and to top it off I have recently got in touch with the adoptive mother and have had contact with my daughter and she knows I am her father. She has stated she wants to spend time with me and her half brothers and sisters since I am now married with other children.
Sny info would be great because I am very confused and now I know that I am not alone in this since other men have had their children kidnapped by CPS.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 8, 2009 2:09:16 GMT -5
What state are you in?
|
|
|
Post by tobias1978 on Mar 8, 2009 13:52:07 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 8, 2009 14:21:04 GMT -5
One of the most notorious of course, you may want to activate your account here and PM Stoptyranny007, they may be able to give you some better info than I since they live in Cali. and are familiar with the states codes and statutes.
|
|
|
Post by tobias1978 on Mar 8, 2009 15:31:18 GMT -5
One of the most notorious of course, you may want to activate your account here and PM Stoptyranny007, they may be able to give you some better info than I since they live in Cali. and are familiar with the states codes and statutes. thanks for the help!
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2009 6:37:19 GMT -5
One of the most notorious of course, you may want to activate your account here and PM Stoptyranny007, they may be able to give you some better info than I since they live in Cali. and are familiar with the states codes and statutes. thanks for the help! If you need anything else please let me know, plus there are a few others here that may be able to help or give you some support. Many of us here have gone through several misfortunes. Edited: spelling
|
|
|
Post by DaisyMayNot on Mar 9, 2009 9:25:09 GMT -5
Well here is my story. About 11 years agowhen I was 19 years old CPS contacted me saying i was named as a potential father of a baby girl. They did the cotton mouth swab dna test and it turned out that I was the father. Now at this time I did have a stable place to live and a decent job. They said before I can get my daughter they wanted me to go through a parenting class and a anger management class. I still don't know why I had to take the anger class since I had no criminal history except a traffic ticket. I went through the first parenting class and completed it. But they said while I was in the anger class I had to take another parenting class. Now here is where it gets messy. Right after I completed my 2nd parenting class CPS sent me a letter saying my parental rights are terminated. Without any court or meeting with me they took my child. My sister and mother both stepped up and said they would take her but they said no because I would be coming around. Is there any way I can get any of my parental rights back or have grounds for a lawsuit? Oh and to top it off I have recently got in touch with the adoptive mother and have had contact with my daughter and she knows I am her father. She has stated she wants to spend time with me and her half brothers and sisters since I am now married with other children. Sny info would be great because I am very confused and now I know that I am not alone in this since other men have had their children kidnapped by CPS. i dont understand why you have waited 11 years?
|
|
|
Post by tobias1978 on Mar 9, 2009 23:38:57 GMT -5
Well here is my story. About 11 years agowhen I was 19 years old CPS contacted me saying i was named as a potential father of a baby girl. They did the cotton mouth swab dna test and it turned out that I was the father. Now at this time I did have a stable place to live and a decent job. They said before I can get my daughter they wanted me to go through a parenting class and a anger management class. I still don't know why I had to take the anger class since I had no criminal history except a traffic ticket. I went through the first parenting class and completed it. But they said while I was in the anger class I had to take another parenting class. Now here is where it gets messy. Right after I completed my 2nd parenting class CPS sent me a letter saying my parental rights are terminated. Without any court or meeting with me they took my child. My sister and mother both stepped up and said they would take her but they said no because I would be coming around. Is there any way I can get any of my parental rights back or have grounds for a lawsuit? Oh and to top it off I have recently got in touch with the adoptive mother and have had contact with my daughter and she knows I am her father. She has stated she wants to spend time with me and her half brothers and sisters since I am now married with other children. Sny info would be great because I am very confused and now I know that I am not alone in this since other men have had their children kidnapped by CPS. i dont understand why you have waited 11 years? 11 years is a long time. But I thought there was nothing I can do and felt all alone. I just want my parental rights or at least some of them so I can be in my daughters life without any roadblocks. I also did not know where the adoptive mother lived. I only knew her first name. CPS would not tell me anything after they took my parental rights away so I did not know what to do.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 10, 2009 6:16:02 GMT -5
i dont understand why you have waited 11 years? 11 years is a long time. But I thought there was nothing I can do and felt all alone. I just want my parental rights or at least some of them so I can be in my daughters life without any roadblocks. I also did not know where the adoptive mother lived. I only knew her first name. CPS would not tell me anything after they took my parental rights away so I did not know what to do. I must say that the time issue is an enemy against you to a certain extent......beside the mafia and kidnapping organization called CPS. I'm not very familiar with Cal. code or procedures there but my guess would be that they would protect the adoptive parent(s) from losing their parental rights. Sounds sickening for the biological parent (you), but that is probably the status quo as it is in most states. Without knowing many details of your situation, it is a hard call to make of any options for you. Alot would depend on the adoptive parents allowing you back into your childs life would be one guess of mine. You are in a very peculiar situation and must do all the research you can..........and do not make a mistake, mistakes could cost you any chance you have for they (CSPand attorneys) will use it against you.
|
|
|
Post by tobias1978 on Mar 11, 2009 22:21:28 GMT -5
11 years is a long time. But I thought there was nothing I can do and felt all alone. I just want my parental rights or at least some of them so I can be in my daughters life without any roadblocks. I also did not know where the adoptive mother lived. I only knew her first name. CPS would not tell me anything after they took my parental rights away so I did not know what to do. I must say that the time issue is an enemy against you to a certain extent......beside the mafia and kidnapping organization called CPS. I'm not very familiar with Cal. code or procedures there but my guess would be that they would protect the adoptive parent(s) from losing their parental rights. Sounds sickening for the biological parent (you), but that is probably the status quo as it is in most states. Without knowing many details of your situation, it is a hard call to make of any options for you. Alot would depend on the adoptive parents allowing you back into your childs life would be one guess of mine. You are in a very peculiar situation and must do all the research you can..........and do not make a mistake, mistakes could cost you any chance you have for they (CSPand attorneys) will use it against you. Yes the Adoptive mother is letting be apart of my daughters life. She allows my daughter to call me as well as letting me call her. She is even bring here to see me. It like clock work 6:30pm my time we talk for about 2 hours then she heads off to bed for school.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 12, 2009 6:30:56 GMT -5
I must say that the time issue is an enemy against you to a certain extent......beside the mafia and kidnapping organization called CPS. I'm not very familiar with Cal. code or procedures there but my guess would be that they would protect the adoptive parent(s) from losing their parental rights. Sounds sickening for the biological parent (you), but that is probably the status quo as it is in most states. Without knowing many details of your situation, it is a hard call to make of any options for you. Alot would depend on the adoptive parents allowing you back into your childs life would be one guess of mine. You are in a very peculiar situation and must do all the research you can..........and do not make a mistake, mistakes could cost you any chance you have for they (CSPand attorneys) will use it against you. Yes the Adoptive mother is letting be apart of my daughters life. She allows my daughter to call me as well as letting me call her. She is even bring here to see me. It like clock work 6:30pm my time we talk for about 2 hours then she heads off to bed for school. This is really great news to my ears! You should actually consider yourself (and your daughter) blessed to some extent considering some of the horror stories I have heard and about how many people never have the option to even get to know their children once CPS gets involved. Your daughters adoptive parents must be some really good people to even let you be involved with your daughter! You do know that they most likely have the legal right to exile you completely huh? I don't know the Orders that are in place concerning your case though so I am speculating. You are setting a precedence with your relationship with your daughter and continue doing the best you can and never refuse a visit, phone call etc etc. This will benefit you and your daughter in so many ways. You are building a foundation! Enjoy every second you get concerning your relationship with your daughter and keep building from that, foundations such as this are strong and over time cannot be broken.
|
|
|
Post by scharlie on May 8, 2010 12:00:16 GMT -5
I like your passions i feel you have strong emotion or feeling with your daughter.
|
|
|
Post by Harrison on Jul 4, 2010 14:56:36 GMT -5
In no state in the Union can CPS terminate your parental rights without due process. That means; a complete and proper investigation to collect evidence, the lack of evidence is not evidence!! After 90 days (in WA) if there is reasonable or sufficient cause (they found something to use against you) a court proceeding will be filled in the superior court of your county and that court may deprive you of your right, if wrong or illegal activity has been PROOVED BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT. CPS DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TERMANATE YOUR RIGHT!!!!!! For that matter they had no right to even ask you to attend any class, my best guess would be that that was the smoke screen to head you in the wrong direction to cover CPS and the mothers illegal activity. Even the court must show cause to take any right. I also fear time is your worst enemy here, I would bank that most any court wouldn't change anything now, but if the adoptive parents agree to a visitation schedule the court can do little to stop it. A lawsuit against CPS? That would start by getting a copy of every record they have, the adoption agency and the courts have, the court was involved in this illegal travesty some time. CA DSHS has a web site were I'm pretty sure you'll find a down load of a request for records form. If you submit this form do it in person and have the receptionist sign, date and time and give you a copy of said form. Under the freedom of information act they have to give you everything related to you, you ask for so make sure you ask for everything. Because it's been so long the records my not exist, they're only supposed to hold on to them a max. of seven years and only for certain reasons, but as you've already found, when do they do what they're supposed to do? If I were you I'd sure be curious as hell to see the court records of your daughters adoption, if it's for a potential legal case I don't think the courts can deni records but that's something we can check on when you are ready. The adoptive parents must be some pretty great people!!!! Please, let them know just that. They maybe your best friends in all of this and if you do start forward against the state it may not hurt to reassure them that this isn't about taking your/their daughter away but teaching CPS that no matter how many times they say they're God, doesn't make it so! Sorry, I didn't see this sooner
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Jul 6, 2010 9:50:05 GMT -5
The court records are probably sealed tighter than a drum Harrison, I wouldn't be surprised if the adoptive parents counldn't even get their hands on them............another method these criminals get away with some of the things that they do.
|
|
|
Post by Harrison on Jul 8, 2010 10:48:11 GMT -5
I would bet on it, but maybe in they're rush to deprive an innocent of his rights, CPS and the adoption agency missed a step. The laws in adoption have changed a lot in the recent past were sealed records are at issue. Here's a spit ball. It takes 3 to make a conspiracy. Here we have the mother, the adoption agency and CPS, let's toss the court in to put some cake under the shit frosting. In a conspiracy to defraud case the court would have to open the records to show that at the very least they didn't violate the father 14th amendment rights, and that would lead to disclosure. And as Jim has made clear in recent blogs fraud on the court makes that decision null and void. That's not to say the father would gain custody, because the adoptive parents would be the primary care giver and after all this time that wouldn't be in the best interest of the child. I'm sure CPS will either have disposed of there records years ago or just can't find them, but they should be part of the court records. I hope you saved all the paper work the kid nappers gave you. Of course in a suit like that there would be a list of broken laws, such as CPS's improper investigation or lack there of, but a conspiracy charge would tie them all together at the hip. We know wrong was done and when they realize there's a shit storm on the way, the finger pointing will start. It's a plan, what do you think?
|
|