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Post by Jim on Feb 12, 2009 7:16:24 GMT -5
By Terrence Popp
I HAD A LIFE
I had a wife and children, I had a family. I had a career with hopes and dreams for the future. I believed in my country. I believed in freedom and that it was worth fighting for. I believed in justice, fair-play and equality. I believed in reward for having a good mans heart. I thought I could make a difference. I thought it all mattered, I had hope.
I WAS DEPLOYED TO IRAQ
I remember kissing my children as they cried, kissing my wife and promising to return. She promised "I will love you for ever". My employer promised to hold my job as I shook his hand. My neighbors put up flags and wished me well. I served my country; I put up with the heat, shook in terror and feared the night. I endured the separation and dreamed to call home when I could. I lost friends. I lost my health. I looked forward to my home coming and resuming my life, it never came.
I RETURNED
After extended deployments and broken promises, I am finally allowed to come home. With no one at the ramp, no wife, no children, a restraining order was all I received telling me I can not go home; it was no longer my home. I returned to a job that had been sent overseas. My house was nearing foreclosure and my wife wanted a divorce. At my divorce I was vilified in court for serving my country. I was accused of being unfit to be with my children. I was powerless and helpless as the court stripped my children away from me. The same court and justice system I went to Iraq to defend. I was ordered to pay child support based on a job I no longer had and could not replace. From now on to my kids I am voice on the phone and a paycheck. My passport has been revoked; my tax returns will forever be taken from me. I struggle to pay the court ordered support, if I can’t pay, I become a criminal. I then can’t drive because my driver’s license has been revoked due to arrears in child support. If I try to drive and get pulled over I will go to jail. I then can not pay at all and my arrears increase. I struggle to make ends meet and keep up my support checks. I have no help from my government that called on me and used my service but because I was National Guard, I don’t meet the same requirements as active duty. I file paper work with the courts for visitation with my children and have to wait months to go to court, when I show up for court I could go to jail to pay child support based on a job that was "outsourced" overseas. When I get to see my children its supervised visitation only, because I have been injured in the line of duty and have to take meds for my condition. I have been portrayed as a villain in the eyes of the court. I can now be charged as a felon for child support evasion which again is based on a job I no longer have and that is not coming back. I can’t make enough money, I can’t save any money, I can only struggle to support attorneys and the courts. I filed all the correct paper work, I wore my uniform, I brought the pink slip from my lost job, and the court looked at me like a second class citizen. There was no honor or appreciation for my service and my sacrifice only contempt for my absence; an absence requested by my country for me to serve. Now I owe more then I can ever repay, I can not bankrupt on the debt, I have no voice in court. I have no recourse; I’ve been robbed of my hope!
I was sent thousands of miles away from my family and my life to enforce freedom and democracy and returned to find it doesn’t even exist here for me. Wonder how so many brave and valiant soldiers who served their country with honor can become drunks and bums? Why are they ending their lives after returning home in record numbers? Why are these brave men and women shadows of the people they once were? They have been robbed of their power and voice, and now are just broken and forgotten. They have lost their hope. For far too many, they can only hope to exist in poverty, what a wonderful thank you for their service and a job well done. The most amazing part of this crazy mess is that all these soldiers would honorably serve all over again. Why has our government abandoned us? Where is the honor and service due us?
When I kissed my family good bye to leave for Iraq, I didn’t know it would be for the last time.
The courts call it obligation;
I call it slavery and servitude!!!
TERRENCE S M POPP, Green Beret, Iraq: 2003-04.
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Post by Frank on Jan 22, 2012 18:38:44 GMT -5
I don't think the Military has anything to do with being a good parent. Yes, you made the decision to fight for this country but that doesn't change the fact that you were not at home to support your wife and children. What is a parent has to work in another state or country? Should they be treated different by the courts? If you can pay child support that means you are not supporting your children!
I think you should have considered not having children if you thought you could not support them because of your chosen profession. Many people put their profession first and do not have children for that very reason.
To call your situation "slavery" because the courts order you to support your children is a slap in the face to actual slaves and your children. I hope your children's mother will find a real "man" to support her children because what they need now is love and support not complaining and blame.
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Post by Jim on Jan 23, 2012 10:42:06 GMT -5
I don't think the Military has anything to do with being a good parent. Yes, you made the decision to fight for this country but that doesn't change the fact that you were not at home to support your wife and children. What is a parent has to work in another state or country? Should they be treated different by the courts? If you can pay child support that means you are not supporting your children! I think you should have considered not having children if you thought you could not support them because of your chosen profession. Many people put their profession first and do not have children for that very reason. To call your situation "slavery" because the courts order you to support your children is a slap in the face to actual slaves and your children. I hope your children's mother will find a real "man" to support her children because what they need now is love and support not complaining and blame. So Frank? (if that's even your real name) If a mother soldier gets deployed to Iraq for a years tour and the father is at home with the kids and decides he wants a divorce and doesn't want the mother to have anything to do with the children any more and alienates and keeps the children from her because she choose to be a soldier......that's alright too huh? Your comment is biased and ridiculous to say the least.... |
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Post by Harrison on Jan 23, 2012 16:29:43 GMT -5
To believe any person always has a choice is ignorant, asinine, dumb as hammered horse shit.....etc.
There are many parents that both work, in the same house, that don't spend enough time with the child to cook and eat a good meal together in a week. So Frank your first statement I couldn't agree with more!
Your also correct about the use of slavery, very wrong!! This guy should quite bitchin' and realize indentured servitude is a hole different animal.
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Post by jpcusick on Jan 24, 2012 10:13:32 GMT -5
I don't think the Military has anything to do with being a good parent. Yes, you made the decision to fight for this country but that doesn't change the fact that you were not at home to support your wife and children. What is a parent has to work in another state or country? Should they be treated different by the courts? If you can pay child support that means you are not supporting your children! I think you should have considered not having children if you thought you could not support them because of your chosen profession. Many people put their profession first and do not have children for that very reason. To call your situation "slavery" because the courts order you to support your children is a slap in the face to actual slaves and your children. I hope your children's mother will find a real "man" to support her children because what they need now is love and support not complaining and blame. I do not want to make any personal comment against "Frank" above as he is just saying what very many other people say too. The thing is that Frank and others do not care that the father is being mistreated or even trashed (or the non custodial Moms too get trashed), and people like "Frank" do not give any regard to the fact that the family is divided and destroyed, that the children are now alienated from their father, and the Child Support is simply subsidizing (paying for) the family to break up and paying for the Custodial to live in adultery and the children are raised into a legally broken family. The Child Support and Custody laws do indeed create a form of slavery against the separated parents (separated from their children) but I see it as a bit more dastardly then "slavery" because the laws turn the separated parents into criminals, and the punishment is extremely excessive when there was no real crime. We all need to learn that we are NOT fighting for our Country, as our Country is fighting against us. |
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Post by sufferlittlechildren on Jul 15, 2015 2:56:16 GMT -5
wow i guess its attitudes like franks that helped give birth to www.redonkulas.comim guessing frank is either a feminist or a leach of the divorce industry thank god for free speech and the internet and damn all the franks who abuse it |
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Post by The Antigynocentrist on Mar 24, 2017 22:36:02 GMT -5
Wow just wow! I want people to have a good look at the responses to Terrance Popp's comment. That is the reason why men are going their own way. There is no concern for the welfare of the man in the relationship. Not even when they serve their country. In fact there is the opposite. There is a sneering and disgusting sense of entitlement that men should simply shut up, be a good workhorse and take their exploitation so the fat cats in the child industry and their ex-wives can simply use them and discard them.
The only thing people like Frank have are words. More and more men are simply opting out of marriage and relationships altogether. You can shame and blame all you like. It only works if men respect the idiots defecating such nonsense and increasing numbers of men don't. I consider the man bashers of the world to be nothing more than a piece of gum on the concrete. To be ignored and overlooked for the idiots they are. Your insults don't work any longer, men are seeing through the BS. You are beneath men like myself and we will treat you as the parasites you are.
I notice not a single person here has addressed the conduct of the woman in all of this, which is so typical. Women are never responsible for their actions. Which is why they are really girls. A nation of girls that never grew up and never womaned up.
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Post by Fuck Frank on Apr 17, 2017 22:23:02 GMT -5
Fuck that guy, honestly, fuck him. The complete callous disregard disgusts me. This is either a woman who used the name Frank because she thinks that if people think she is a man they will not realise how retarded she is. Or he is some beta fucking bitch who pounces at the opportunity to tell people how shit they are and how if only they were a nutless simp like him the world would be a better place. Worms make me sick.
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Post by Mack on Nov 29, 2017 19:27:02 GMT -5
I don't think the Military has anything to do with being a good parent. Yes, you made the decision to fight for this country but that doesn't change the fact that you were not at home to support your wife and children. What is a parent has to work in another state or country? Should they be treated different by the courts? If you can pay child support that means you are not supporting your children! I think you should have considered not having children if you thought you could not support them because of your chosen profession. Many people put their profession first and do not have children for that very reason. To call your situation "slavery" because the courts order you to support your children is a slap in the face to actual slaves and your children. I hope your children's mother will find a real "man" to support her children because what they need now is love and support not complaining and blame. This "Frank" is a disgusting, horrible, and evil person. Terrence was providing for his family. He had a civilian job, which was promised to be held for him while he was out defending the country. Then his civilian employer double crossed him, as did his despicable bitch whore cunt of a wife. It was a tragic injustice, but "Frank" has somehow found a way to blame him. I don't believe that Frank is really a man. She's a woman who must be a member of a feminist hate group. I know that's redundant. If it's a feminist group, of course it's all about hate. Otherwise it would not be feminist since the cornerstone of feminism is hate and vilification of men. And that's exactly what Francina has done. She's assumed a male name and has blamed Terrence for starting a family and then defending his country and then getting ass-raped by his ex employer and his ex wife. I'd bet Francina would not say that to Terrence in person. If she did, he would be fully justified in getting that bitch in a headlock and pounding her face in over and over with brass knuckles. If that's not possible, we should put a noose around her neck and kick the stool out from under her legs and then let her dangle there slowly choking to death on that rope, neck stretching out, gurgling, kicking and struggling until this worthless piece of shit Francina or "Frank" is DEAD DEAD DEAD. Those type of evil sick fucks don't deserve to breathe the same air with the rest of us. I cannot imagine how anyone could blame a man for going off to war in defense of his country and then suffering his wife's betrayal of taking another man's cock up her cunt, ass,and mouth, and then destroying him financially. That bitch also deserves to have a noose around her neck and to have a short drop and then to slowly strangle to death. I think she and this "Frank" ought to die together in the same hanging. They are the vile, worthless, disgusting pieces of shit that I'd like to meet and punch in the face over and over and then smash their faces into a hot waffle iron. Their screams of pain would be music. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU, you disgusting piles of vomit. I hope Satan rapes both of your shitholes in hell where you belong! |
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Post by Dr. Jack Boot on Jan 10, 2018 21:01:31 GMT -5
The problem is that he was sent off to fight for a lie. Appreciation for his sacrifice was a lie. His place as a father was a lie. His job was a lie. His support order is a lie. His "future" was a lie. The whole God Damned thing is a lie. The sooner men realize that they are born into a lie, the sooner they can plan their lives accordingly. As a MGTOW this is exactly what I do. I figure it's all a big fat lie and I plan accordingly. Why waste years of sweat and struggle, and hardship, and planning when the government is set up to destroy men's lives.
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Post by Kofer on Jan 23, 2018 22:12:53 GMT -5
A.) Definition of slavery
1 : drudgery, toil
2 : submission to a dominating influence
3 a : the state of a person who is a chattel of another
b : the practice of slaveholding
"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slavery"
According to the above, slavery is exactly what he, myself, and many others are enduring. And it's fucked. I didn't even get a choice in having children, the first cunt stopped birth control and didn't tell me, and the 2nd straight up put something in my drink. Now I am $200,000 in debt to a state that will arrest me, harass me, and rob me blind of all they can because some stupid cunts pulled some really shady shit that I had little to zero choice in. If that doesn't fall under the paradigm of slavery, I don't know what would.
B.) Fuck Frank
C.) Harrison, see above definition of slavery, because you clearly don't know it if you think that slavery and indentured servitude are the same thing. Popp clearly says "...slavery and servitude", but by referring to them separately he is stating they are 2 different things and should be dealt with accordingly. A side note from a Jew with familial ties to holocaust survivors: Do not presume to speak for us. I imagine you come from a family line whose only experience with slavery, if any at all, was as a master. What's insulting is someone like you speaking for us to shame someone for speaking out, not someone calling perpetuators of slavery, or servitude, out on their shit. If I am wrong and you are a descendant of a slave, then shame on you. Nothing worse than a boot-licker who sells out his own kind. Fucking gonif.
D.) There is no system for upvotes/downvotes, so Frank and Harrison both get -10, and because I can give more than one vote if I damn well please, everyone else gets +10.
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Post by John on Feb 1, 2018 17:58:49 GMT -5
Sympathise with TP, but, on one of his youtube videos he puts down men who refuse to serve in the military and my question is why serve a system that chews up men and spits them out the other end either dead or damaged AND with the majority of people not giving a shit. His first mistake was marrying a hoe and his second mistake was joing the military. By Terrence Popp I HAD A LIFE I had a wife and children, I had a family. I had a career with hopes and dreams for the future. I believed in my country. I believed in freedom and that it was worth fighting for. I believed in justice, fair-play and equality. I believed in reward for having a good mans heart. I thought I could make a difference. I thought it all mattered, I had hope. I WAS DEPLOYED TO IRAQ I remember kissing my children as they cried, kissing my wife and promising to return. She promised "I will love you for ever". My employer promised to hold my job as I shook his hand. My neighbors put up flags and wished me well. I served my country; I put up with the heat, shook in terror and feared the night. I endured the separation and dreamed to call home when I could. I lost friends. I lost my health. I looked forward to my home coming and resuming my life, it never came. I RETURNED After extended deployments and broken promises, I am finally allowed to come home. With no one at the ramp, no wife, no children, a restraining order was all I received telling me I can not go home; it was no longer my home. I returned to a job that had been sent overseas. My house was nearing foreclosure and my wife wanted a divorce. At my divorce I was vilified in court for serving my country. I was accused of being unfit to be with my children. I was powerless and helpless as the court stripped my children away from me. The same court and justice system I went to Iraq to defend. I was ordered to pay child support based on a job I no longer had and could not replace. From now on to my kids I am voice on the phone and a paycheck. My passport has been revoked; my tax returns will forever be taken from me. I struggle to pay the court ordered support, if I can’t pay, I become a criminal. I then can’t drive because my driver’s license has been revoked due to arrears in child support. If I try to drive and get pulled over I will go to jail. I then can not pay at all and my arrears increase. I struggle to make ends meet and keep up my support checks. I have no help from my government that called on me and used my service but because I was National Guard, I don’t meet the same requirements as active duty. I file paper work with the courts for visitation with my children and have to wait months to go to court, when I show up for court I could go to jail to pay child support based on a job that was "outsourced" overseas. When I get to see my children its supervised visitation only, because I have been injured in the line of duty and have to take meds for my condition. I have been portrayed as a villain in the eyes of the court. I can now be charged as a felon for child support evasion which again is based on a job I no longer have and that is not coming back. I can’t make enough money, I can’t save any money, I can only struggle to support attorneys and the courts. I filed all the correct paper work, I wore my uniform, I brought the pink slip from my lost job, and the court looked at me like a second class citizen. There was no honor or appreciation for my service and my sacrifice only contempt for my absence; an absence requested by my country for me to serve. Now I owe more then I can ever repay, I can not bankrupt on the debt, I have no voice in court. I have no recourse; I’ve been robbed of my hope! I was sent thousands of miles away from my family and my life to enforce freedom and democracy and returned to find it doesn’t even exist here for me. Wonder how so many brave and valiant soldiers who served their country with honor can become drunks and bums? Why are they ending their lives after returning home in record numbers? Why are these brave men and women shadows of the people they once were? They have been robbed of their power and voice, and now are just broken and forgotten. They have lost their hope. For far too many, they can only hope to exist in poverty, what a wonderful thank you for their service and a job well done. The most amazing part of this crazy mess is that all these soldiers would honorably serve all over again. Why has our government abandoned us? Where is the honor and service due us? When I kissed my family good bye to leave for Iraq, I didn’t know it would be for the last time. The courts call it obligation; I call it slavery and servitude!!! TERRENCE S M POPP, Green Beret, Iraq: 2003-04. |
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Post by AuggieDoggie on Apr 8, 2018 5:22:57 GMT -5
Sorry to see this tragedy Terrance.
We need a sanctuary network that helps men go into hiding and absconds them to other places of sanctuary. A new Underground Railroad for men to disappear into.
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Post by Sean Diamond on Apr 16, 2018 22:36:04 GMT -5
I don't think .... is the only thing I took from your response; other than I think you’re a jackass. |
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Post by Dave. on Jun 2, 2018 16:02:36 GMT -5
I am Happy to have found this site, as it seems that Every INJUSTICE I have been served has got on You all and THEN SOME. The way any of us have been treated is Not good and WE all relate to each other with carbon Copy stories. TIME for those STORIES to CHANGE in a Very TRUMP WAY, Let us Go CONSTITUTIONAL on the SLAVEMASTERS, They are as Individuals the REAL POS in the Family destruction scenario's played out every single day To Fathers and Mothers/families Across our country, This CRAP has to stop. I Firmly Believe that Civl WAR is eminent and That IS the time to Take action.
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