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Post by Jim on May 30, 2009 8:49:09 GMT -5
Chris, I was just wanting to know if all you had was a RO and if you had actual family violence charges against you.
I know these RO's can be quite frivilous, but then again in these situations its hard not to let tempers flare.
Do you still have to go back to court about the RO?
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Post by Chrem88 on May 30, 2009 14:18:20 GMT -5
Chris, I was just wanting to know if all you had was a RO and if you had actual family violence charges against you. I know these RO's can be quite frivolous, but then again in these situations its hard not to let tempers flare. Do you still have to go back to court about the RO? Well the one RO is for ex parte order .That one is expire on June 21 2008,The sec RO is due to the criminal charge she has against me.I hope that helps
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Post by BertaSue on May 30, 2009 21:41:53 GMT -5
I did write the school and after 45 days i call the school and then call the family compliance office and then they called the school and spoke to them and then FC officer called me back and said i had to start over again.By sending a certified letter and i cannot afford that and then wait another 45 days and so on and so on.As for parentage and identity,I have no money to get copies of BC and SS Cards. This information doesn't add up. Again, verbal communication is a waste! In my experience, the school always responds to written correspondence. If you didn't provide proof of parentage and identity, you didn't follow the FERPA guidelines required to obtain your children's records.
I have to agree with FRAMED, if you don't have a few bucks to obtain your own children's birth certificates and to pay for postage to mail a letter, then exactly how to expect to feed and care of them if you did get the opportunity to visit with them? How do you expect to show the court you have your act together? I guess you think an attorney will accomplish that for you. I dunno.
I'm sure you love your children, but you need to focus on getting your act together so you can be the best parent you possibly can be to your children.
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Post by BertaSue on May 31, 2009 23:02:18 GMT -5
Framed,
I added my sample FERPA letter to your FERPA section of the forum.
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Post by Jim on Jun 1, 2009 10:22:28 GMT -5
Chris, all other things aside, you must look at your situation without any of your own frustration or emotions involved and see it from a courts/judges perspective.
We are not trying to be hardasses about any of this but we have had alot of experience with these types of situations and both me and BertaSue see yours as a serious mess, especially considering your location and your carreer/financial crisis that you are in.
I have been in some nasty situations and the advice given me was "You must first get control of YOURSELF and your own life before you can think about taking care of your kids"......and yes that was frustrating news to hear and pissed me off, but it was also very true.
You need to lay down a personal plan with goals and get yourself and your capability to fight for your kids in order. I know you know this and it will just take time, effort, and alot of strength.
Keep us posted on your progress and personally I hope you figure out a way to move closer to your kids and find a half way decent job near them, that would solve alot of stress and confusion for all involved, besides eliminating alot of legal formalities.
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Post by Jim on Jun 15, 2009 15:39:12 GMT -5
Hey Chris, have you had any headway and progress with anything with your situation?
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Post by Chrem88 on Jun 15, 2009 16:46:52 GMT -5
Nope i have not.Well here is the latest BS she is now pulling Well how do i begin a reply to your clearly plea to blame everything on me for your faults as mother.First off they are not Your Kids.They are our KIDS.Last time i remember from sex education classes.That it take two people to make a child.So it be safe to assume that they are OUR,Since both of us had sexual relationship to create the kids.So i glad one of us was able to clear that one up. Now for ur clear plea to blame me for clearly not wanting to do household chores.If i remember clearly u never did all the cleaning any ways.Yes granted you did the dishes at time and as for cooking,You was not home every night to cook.To my memory u was never home at night to cook since our Natalie(SPELL RIGHT) was just a little baby.So your cooking play was just shoot down.As for your cop out on teaching them things,I taught our son and daughter,MANNERS,Respect for their parents.And to clean up after their self's.I mean i was trying to teaching our kids the things that your family forgot somehow when they came over on the mayflower.Our ways of parenting is different as u might well tell,I mean to each it on.As for it a woman job those was never ever usher from my mouth,All i said is since i had to work in the morning and it is only u and the kids before they started school.There is no reason why OUR house should be looking like this.I mean hell u would sit home for 8 hrs without the kids and the house would be a mess.Plus all WE ever agree keeping clean was the DISHES and the carpet and the kids room.Cause our room was room and that was u agree.But then again i bet u was lying on that as well Now on too your second cop out on why are son play's wow and xbox.Well lets see yes i played Xbox and wow when i was home.But if i remember OUR children said so was you.So once again.Liz Embry calls the kettle black again.There was plenty of times u did not mind at all.And then if u had a issue with it.All u had to do was talk to me about.And we could have put a stop to it.But once again i am more then man enough to take the blame for that.Well at least someone has too.Since one parent will not say THEY are at fault too. Now for the matt issue How in the hell is their any way u think that any man that is going to be near OURkids is NOT going to be my concern.So u claim that he wants to be part of their life's then how come this is the text he sent to me 2298156485@vtext.com show details 5:32 PM (21 hours ago) Im not when they called me the outher day they where good Hooper Now let see u claim that he calls them.Now those are his own words.So how can u say he wants to be there.If he wanted to be there he would have never left u and all.No one wants a woman who care for herself more then her kids.Plus i pray for u.I mean for to date a man who talk shit about their gf and their kids daddy like he did to her own family members..You really must me in need of a mental health checkup as well.Cause all u are doing is having the kids call him so u can use them to get him back.As for him wanting to be around.If he is been around.It only use u as BOOTY CALL.You know that is why everyone calls him your sugar daddy.And our daughter will see u doing this and think it normal for a woman to do that. As for the texting him.I Can text who i please.I am free person to talk to whoever i want.Your right he does not live there.But my kids live there and that is all i care about.And what u must be his bodyguard.I mean if it means that much too u.I might quit.But then again if u can be stubborn and all.So should i.But then again i have grown up and move on with fighting with u and the silly little drama u play. Now for the epic master piece of the reply to your message on giving them space. So ready here it comes So you said this " So if you want to help them you need to give them some space they haven't seen you in over two years what makes you think they want to " Space is all they had.Since u been keeping me away from them.U have done this too them.Yes the kids might be mad at me for not being there.But it job as parent to tell them that daddy might be here but he stills love you.And when he can come down.He will come and see you.But i can only imagine that is not what u told them and you told them that i do not love them and i am a bad parent and all.And how i choose someone else over them and so on and so on.But that is not the case.You can call kay as u have done before and she will tell u that all i ever do is think of them and wake up hoping to hear there voices and cry many days cause i am not near them.No u want me to give them space so u can warp there minds and make me out to be the monster in this.And that is how you plan on using them against me .And if they miss him.It cause of the things he would buy them and then the second reason is cause you want them to miss him.So u can lore him back and so u can get what u want.Ain't no dick worth using the kids as u are doing.All i can say u will get what coming back too you in the long road at the end Now for the 2 yrs.That must be blond math again.Cause it been 1 yr 6 mths and 13 days since i seen my kids.So were u came up with 2 yrs i have no clue. Now to reply to this "All Jonathan wants from you in his PlayStation that you got them for Christmas that's all he wants and Natalie which you have yet to spell her name right doesn't want to talk to you at all" I still have it and all the games,It was but for the kids when i have them over and that is were it will stay.I mean i know u and u will use as a way to control them and that will not be done by my doing.I had talk to u about it before i left and u threw a fit like a child.And why is our daughter not wanting to talk to me .You still cannot explain that one too me.All is hear is the same old ass excuse month after month from you.Now u claim that is all my fault that she does not want too talk me.You know u are a mean and spiteful person for evening thinking those comments would effect me. Well you are wrong and all.You are just mad at yourself for being a sad a lonely woman.A woman who cannot tell that she has the most to make in her life for the sake of her kids.And does not need a man to do that.Then again u will never grow up and say u know i have hurt alot of people and one day.They will wanna speak to me and when that day happen.Your whole self pity world will come crashing down.They do not love him.You want them to love him and so u can control the kids to get him to come back.Hell u once again make me say I am going to pray for you and the person u have become... And if u think i am going to leave their life's like u mother left your father,And watch ARE KIDS grown up the way u did.Baby girl u got another thing coming.As long as there is breath in body and a heart pumping blood.U can count on that one.And if this will help.Look at it like this.I will be that bullet that is left inside a person who was shoot and could not be remove and when your move and feel the pain.It will be a clear reminder of i am still around,And secondly plus every time you look at OUR KIDS .U will see that i am still around and keeping up the good fight for them.Just like your father did for you.And u mother and grace choose too keep u away and then u turn into a monster now. So in closing.I will be calling and speaking to Jonathan,On monday and if they speak to me then that is good and all.If not daddy will still continue to fight to see them. [glow=red,2,300]The message above is my reply to the one that is directly below.[/glow]
----------------- Original Message ----------------- From: " ELIZABETH" To: Chris Date: Jun 13, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: RE: hey
Im tired of youre excuses and delusions of you was this great Daddy for my kids. And i say my kids becouse you never wanted or took responbility for anything in their lives. You expected me to work, cook, clean , teach them things that you could also have donee but refused to becouse as you say its a woman's job and all along you sat and played video games. You wonder why thats all Jonathan is interested in its youre fault .Playing WOW all the time and Xbox.He got it from you . And as for the relationship between me and Matt that doesnt concearn you he still wants to be a part of their lives and im not going to stop him.He actually cares how there doin he calls to talk to him regualy.Theres no reason for you to bother him texting cause as you said he dont live here so leave him alone. So if you want to help them you need to give them some space they havent seen you in over two years what makes you think they want to .All jonathan wants from you in his playstation that you got them for christmas thats all he wants and Natalie which you have yet to spell her name right doesnt want to talk to you at alll how sad is that and its all youre fault.They want to go see Matt if that makes you feel any better.They miss him and they went and visted him.They love him.It doesnt matter if me and matt dont work out he will still be a part of their lives.So just leave us alone we dont want you.
----------------- Original Message ----------------- From: Chris To: " ELIZABETH" Date: Jun 12, 2009 4:30 AM Subject: hey
U know i cannot believe what a person u have become and all.I mean i can understand any hate u have against me.I have admitted to you i was a bad husband.But for u to say
"So you khno9w they meaning Jonathan and Natakie do not wish to speak to you. It is not me keeping you from them they made that choice on there own."
I cannot believe u would stoop to the point were u would use ur own kids against me,Just so u can try to get even with me.And if u honestly think i belive my OUR kids would choose not too talk me cause they choose too.Then u have serious fuck them up.Cause if the kids fear me then how come the they miss me and was said when they could not come up to see and all.And they did not want to come back to u when i had them,They would cry and say i wanna stay with daddy.
You know liz the one that i worry about the most out of our 2 kids.It is jonathan,He is going to grow up and have anger issue over this and there will be no one to blame but u and me.But telling u this will do no good.Cause like u said after u fuck up my life.
ALL U SEEM CARE IS ABOUT U. I mean with me not being there u are suppose to be a prime role model for him.I mean he had trouble in both schools since i have left,He is still having anger issue.I mean from the video of him he is more concern with a pc and all,So it would be safe to assume that all u allow him is too play games.So that way u do not have to deal with it.
And then there is are daugther.She will look up too and wanna be like u.I mean do u honestly think our daugther will see a role model in her future.I mean u cannot find work at all.U expect me to take care of u from a child support check that u would be able to get if u would drop the damn charge so i can work.But u will never do that at all.So u will try to find a man to take care of u and she will grown up too see this as a commmon thing and she will be just like u
Plus i remember last time u let me speak to them,They was happy to speak to me.You stop letting me speak to them cause our son said UR EX SUGAR DADDY would not let him spend the night with me.And i question u on it and u had a fit cause i said to SO are son is lying and all,And u threating me that matt would beat my ass and then u hung up on me and then he call back and did the same.So it funny how u can say that did not wanna speak so shortly after i last talk to them
And ur quote about Kay
"Dont you have a GF to worry about better keep her happy or she may throw you out. "
She and i are doing great and all.She will not kick me out and all.She and i do not worried about u and u comments towards her kid.I mean i can say this she does put her kids first and she has ex that does not want 2 do anything for her kid and she still lets the man see his kid.When he decides to show up and all.So i cannot see were u have the idea to even cross that line.And for u a GROWN ASS Woman 2 bring up a 13 yr old kid in a message.Show 100% proof that u will use a child to gain whatever control u might want
And for u too quote this
"They call Matt daddy they love him and trust him.Matt has never given them a reason to doubt his love for them.Hes never hurt them in any way or given them a reason to fear him"
Then how come he kick u too the curb in alabama.I mean and said this too me when i text him asking if u and the kids was ok
here is the text
I got a girl now that works and ant got anykids Tab. &.matt
Wow liz that sure does sound like such a great father fiqure for ours kids.I mean if that is what u call a person who cares about kids,Wow no wonder why u and i never work.
You know when u say shit like this
"We have a new family with Matt and im not going to let you ruin there lives for the greater good of youre own PRIDE becouse youre biological kids love another man as there dad more than you." U are not hurting me.U are hurting them in the long road,Cause they will see what it like to know that I nver gave up on them and still fight to see them.I mean u could and i could be divorce and go on about are merry life's and all,And be there for are kids.But no i was more then willing to comprise and even screw my self by letting u have sole custody of the kids and i would have been happy with them every weekend and one day a week.But no u did not want that.
I mean what is it going to take for u to GROW up and let me speak to OUR Kids.Because of ur recent choices i guess i have to figure out a way to come back to Ga,and deal with it and that way u can make it a draw out battle and the kids will suffer more and more and more.But since u care so much for them.Have u really even thought of that Here is the other BS message i got from----------------- Original Message ----------------- From: " ELIZABETH" To: Chris Date: Jun 12, 2009 1:27 AM Subject: RE: hey
I am sorry to inform you but i can not understand what you are trying to say. Youre emails are incoherent and do nat make sense and you end each sentence with an " and all"..So you khno9w they meaning Jonathan and Natakie do not wish to speak to you. It is not me keeping you from them they made that choice on there own.They call Matt daddy they love him and trust him.Matt has never given them a reason to doubt his love for them.Hes never hurt them in any way or given them a reason to fear him.. You can keep youre dillusions of you was this great loving farther all you want but The TRUTH of the matter is you wasnt. You maybe able to fool alot of people into youre sad pityfull lie you love them and never hurt them . BUT WE BOTH KNOW BETTER!!!! We have a new family with Matt and im not going to let you ruin there lives for the greater good of youre own PRIDE becouse youre biological kids love another man as there dad more than you.!! So dont be suprised when or if you try to call and they dont want to talk to you. Why are you so worried about me and my personal life. Dont you have a GF to worry about better keep her happy or she may throw you out. Have you tried to hit her yet Hurt her kids?? Choke her threaten her with a knife,cuse her out,call her names, cut up her clothesand put them in the oven, Throw things at her to where you have to drive her to the hospital to get staples put in her head to close the 3 inch gap you put there. , etc,etc. The list goes on and on.Just wondering since you like to pry so much... ----------------- Original Message -----------------
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Post by JayReyes9969 on Jun 25, 2009 15:20:10 GMT -5
alright i am some what in the same boat as you, i won my case in nevada but my ex fled to georgia and now i am trying to get my son back. i have the court orders from the state of nevada and the state of georgia wont honor that unles i have them domesticated to out there but when i have spoke to differnt attorneys they have know idea what i am talking about. so if you find a good one please let me know. and if anyone has some advice for me please give it to me i am all ears.
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Post by Chrem88 on Jun 25, 2009 17:23:10 GMT -5
Damn that sucks dude.I mean the only thing i would do is try to get contact with the local sheriff office of were she is living.And then see what they can do,It might be a waste of time as alot of us have been thru with the sheriff's.
As for the domesticated issue,I assume GA is saying that they have to be a resident for more then 6 months before GA can assist u.ANd i bet Nevada is saying contact Ga.
Also what does your paperwork say's.I mean do u have full custody of the kids and she has visitation. Are the the one whole has fully custody of the kids.If so u may want to file a emergency hearing in your local court house to get her to bring the kids back.
Also if u can try uploading the paperwork to a file site and maybe someone can take a look at them and assist u a little better
Also try calling this number
GBI’s 24 Hour Communications Center: 404-244-2600 And see were that leads.
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Post by JayReyes9969 on Jun 25, 2009 17:56:28 GMT -5
no i have full custody she is out there with him illegaly i sent my orders to framed father so he might be able to help me
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Post by BertaSue on Jun 25, 2009 18:24:26 GMT -5
In order for another state to enforce another state's order, it must be registered. In Louisiana, it's called the "executory process". Someone desiring to have another state's order recognized and enforced by another state, must file a motion requesting registration of the foreign order. The other party is offered an opportunity to object to the registration for various reasons. If there is no objection, many times, foreign orders are made executory by default. This happens with child support orders on a daily basis. Once the receiving court rules the order valid to enforce, then it is enforceable in that state as if it had issued the order.
I have several examples of motions seeking registration of a foreign order if you would like me to send one to you. It's a very simple process. However, I don't know how he can serve her with it if he doesn't know where she is. Regardless of whether the custody order is registered in GA or not, it would seem that the Feds would be involved helping to locate the children. I mean they've been kidnapped and kidnapping is a crime.
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Post by Jim on Jun 25, 2009 18:58:09 GMT -5
In order for another state to enforce another state's order, it must be registered. In Louisiana, it's called the "executory process". Someone desiring to have another state's order recognized and enforced by another state, must file a motion requesting registration of the foreign order. The other party is offered an opportunity to object to the registration for various reasons. If there is no objection, many times, foreign orders are made executory by default. This happens with child support orders on a daily basis. Once the receiving court rules the order valid to enforce, then it is enforceable in that state as if it had issued the order.
I have several examples of motions seeking registration of a foreign order if you would like me to send one to you. It's a very simple process. However, I don't know how he can serve her with it if he doesn't know where she is. Regardless of whether the custody order is registered in GA or not, it would seem that the Feds would be involved helping to locate the children. I mean they've been kidnapped and kidnapping is a crime. I'd file everything I could against this woman in Nevada ASAP and get felony warrants against her and register them with GA too and demand for the Officials to get your child back to you immediately! She has definantly made a big mistake and will most likely be in BIG trouble once she gets infront of a judge.
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Post by Chrem88 on Jun 25, 2009 19:43:09 GMT -5
That is if they will even make her go to jail.I mean she needs to face the crime she committed.But as we all know GA is a ASS BACKWARDS state
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Post by JayReyes9969 on Jun 25, 2009 23:25:28 GMT -5
yea it is and i have the address where she is staying but when i send mail there they dont accept it but if my mom does they accept it. i am trying to do this but i am having diffeculties on many fronts. when i get a chance i will tell you but i have to go
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Post by Chrem88 on Mar 16, 2010 18:58:25 GMT -5
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